Quote Investigator® – Tracing Quotations

Quote Origin: Do Not Confine Your Children to Your Own Learning, for They Were Born in Another Time

Rabindranath Tagore? Rabbinic Saying? Arabic Proverb? Talmud? A. Huebsch? Leo Rosten? Anonymous?

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Question for Quote Investigator: Knowledge accumulates, and the education of each generation of children must include the latest information and capabilities. Here are two versions of a saying that expresses this idea:

(1) Do not confine your children to your own learning, for they were born in another time.

(2) Don’t limit a child to your own learning, for he was born in another time.

This notion has been attributed to the Bengali sage Rabindranath Tagore. The statement has also been called a Rabbinical saying and an Arabic Proverb. Would you please explore the provenance of this expression?

Reply from Quote Investigator: The earliest match found by QI appeared in an 1887 book titled “Gems of the Orient” which contained sayings compiled and translated by Reverend A. Huebsch. The saying occurred in a part of the volume titled “Arabic Proverbs and Sentences”. The precise source of the saying was not specified. Here are four statements from the subsection about “Children”. Boldface added to excepts by QI:¹

Do not confine your children to your own learning, for they were born in another time.

By much falling the child learns to walk.

From the rose proceeds a thorn, from the thorn a rose. (Said of the diversity between parents and children.)

Be submissive in thy childhood that thou mayest be respected in thy old age.

In 1894 “Good Housekeeping” magazine printed a collection of miscellaneous sayings under the title “The Family Scrap Basket” including the following three items:²

What class of tradesmen succeed best by going to the wall? Paper hangers.

He is a gallant man, indeed, who always stands up for women—in a street car.

Do not confine your children to your own learning, for they were born in another time.

In 1900 the saying appeared in “Wit and Wisdom of the Talmud” edited by Madison C. Peters. Here are four statements from a section titled “Duties Between Parents and Children”:³

Do not confine your children to your own learning, for they were born in another time.

Where the children honor their parents, there God dwells, there He is honored.

Parental love should be impartial; one child must not be preferred to the other.

The three citations above demonstrate the uncertain origin of the saying. The creator remains anonymous. The saying seems to be either Arabic or Rabbinic. QI hopes that future research will help to clarify the origin.

The earliest attribution to Rabindranath Tagore found by QI appeared in 2008 which is an extremely late date.

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Adage Origin: Nobody Notices When Things Go Right

M. Zimmerman? Paul Dickson? Allan L. Otten? Bob Garing? Futurama? Anonymous?

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Question for Quote Investigator: The loudest and most voluble commentators often combine relentless criticism with meager praise. An unhappy worker crafted the following adage:

Nobody notices when things go right.

This statement is sometimes called “Zimmerman’s Law of Complaints”. Do you know anything about this Zimmerman? Would you please explore this topic?

Reply from Quote Investigator: The earliest match found by QI appeared in the 1978 book “The Official Rules: The Definitive, Annotated Collection of Laws, Principles, and Instructions for Dealing with the Real World” compiled by Paul Dickson:¹

Zimmerman’s Law of Complaints. Nobody notices when things go right. (M. Zimmerman. AO.)

The label “AO” pointed to additional information about the authorship of this rule. The book’s section about sources specified the following for “AO”:

AO Allan L. Otten of The Wall Street Journal. From his files and columns on the subject.

Thus, Paul Dickson received the rule from Allan L. Otten who credited M. Zimmerman. QI does not know the full first name of Zimmerman. The book contains only one rule/law from Zimmerman.

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Quote Origin: It Was Worse Than a Crime; It Was a Blunder

Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord? Joseph Fouché? Antoine Boulay de la Meurthe? Napoleon Bonaparte? Jean-Gabriel Peltier? Germaine de Staël? Emmanuel Comte de Las Cases? Walter Scott? Ralph Waldo Emerson?

Question for Quote Investigator: In 1804 the Duke of Enghien was accused of aiding Britain and plotting against Napoleon. Enghien was found guilty and executed. This rapid and brutal action shocked the aristocrats of Europe. Here are two versions of a famous response to this event in French and English:

(1) C’est plus qu’un crime, c’est une faute.
(2) C’est pire qu’un crime, c’est une faute.

(A) It is more than a crime; it is a blunder.
(B) It is worse than a crime; it is a blunder.

This remark has been attributed to the diplomat Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord, the police chief Joseph Fouché, the magistrate Antoine Boulay de la Meurthe, and the military leader Napoleon Bonaparte. Would you please explore this topic?

Reply from Quote Investigator: The earliest match found by QI appeared in 1807 within the periodical “L’Ambigu: ou Variétés Littéraires et Politiques” (“The Ambiguous: or Literary and Political Varieties”) which was edited by the French journalist Jean-Gabriel Peltier and published in London. An article attributed the saying to Antoine Boulay de la Meurthe. Below is an excerpt in French followed by an English translation. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

… on ne peut se dispenser de citer ici un mot froidement atroce de Boulay (de la Meurthe) conseiller d’état, à qui quelqu’un disait : je pense que la mort du Duc d’Enghien est un crime inutile. C’est bien plus qu’un crime, s’écria Boulay, c’est une faute !

… we cannot refrain from quoting here a coldly atrocious remark made by Boulay (de la Meurthe), a Councilor of State, to whom someone said: “I believe that the death of the Duke of Enghien is a pointless crime.” “It is far more than a crime,” exclaimed Boulay; “it is a blunder!”

Based on the citation above, Antoine Boulay de la Meurthe is the most likely creator of this saying. Joseph Fouché is the second most likely creator. Fouché received credit by 1813. Talleyrand received credit in 1822, and Napoleon received credit in 1844.

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Quote Origin: A Hero Has the Wisdom and the Maturity to Use the Power Wisely

Christopher Reeve? David Michael Petrou? Clark Kent? Kal-El? Apocryphal?

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Question for Quote Investigator: An actor who played Superman was asked about the enduring popularity of the character. The actor stated that the appeal was not based solely on power. Instead, true heroism was shown by the wisdom and maturity displayed while wielding power. Would you please help me to find the correct phrasing of this quotation and the identity of the actor?

Reply from Quote Investigator: An influential depiction of superheroism appeared in the 1978 film “Superman”. Producer David Michael Petrou published a companion book titled “The Making of Superman: The Movie” in the same year. Petrou spoke to actor Christopher Reeve who had been selected to play the role of Superman and his alter ego Clark Kent / Kal-El:¹

As much as he looked the part, however, Chris made it clear when he talked to me later on the set that the film Superman would have to have greater depth of character than the comic-book figure.

Reeves continued his remarks with a statement about power:

So what I’m trying to do is to go way under. If the script calls for incredible feats, all I have to do is . . . just simply do them. What makes Superman a hero is not that he has power, but that he has the wisdom and the maturity to use the power wisely. From an acting point of view, that’s how I approach the part.

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Quote Origin: Change the Way You Look at Things, and the Things You Look at Change

Wayne Dyer? Max Planck? Benjamin Wheeler? Gilda Wheeler? Wendy Church? Anonymous?

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Question for Quote Investigator: When you change your viewpoint on life the entire world can be altered. Carefully deciding where to focus your attention and your efforts is crucial to leading a successful life. Here is a pertinent adage:

Change the way you look at things, and the things you look at change.

This saying has been attributed to two very different people: U.S. self-help author Wayne Dyer and German theoretical physicist Max Planck. I have not seen a solid citation, and I am skeptical of these attributions. Would you please explore this topic?

Reply from Quote Investigator: QI has found no substantive evidence that Max Planck said or wrote this remark. Planck died in 1947.

In 2004 Wayne Dyer published “The Power of Intention: Learning to Co-Create Your World Your Way”. The tenth chapter began with the following passage. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

One of my secrets for feeling successful and attracting bountiful abundance into my life has been an internal axiom that I use virtually every day of my life. It goes like this: Change the way you look at things, and the things you look at change. This has always worked for me.

The truth of this little maxim is actually found in the field of quantum physics, which, according to some, is a subject that’s not only stranger than you think it is, it’s stranger than you can think.

QI believes that Wayne Dyer deserves credit for the quotation under examination.

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Quote Origin: Every Writer Has a Lifetime Ration of Three Exclamation Points

William Maxwell? Annabel Davis-Goff? Elmore Leonard? Helen Dudar? Benjamin Dreyer? William Safire? F. Scott Fitzgerald? Sheilah Graham? Christopher Morley? Terry Hersom? Anonymous?

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Question for Quote Investigator: The stylistically appropriate use of exclamation points is a contentious topic. One writer proposed the following comically extreme self-contradictory rule:

Kill all exclamation points!!!

Style guides have presented the following instructions:

(1) A writer gets two exclamation points in a lifetime.
(2) Every writer has a lifetime ration of three exclamation points.
(3) Use no more than a dozen exclamation points per book.

Rules of this type have been attributed to magazine editor William Maxwell, crime writer Elmore Leonard, copy editor Benjamin Dreyer, speechwriter William Safire, and others. Would you please explore this topic?

Reply from Quote Investigator: The earliest match with a numerical restriction on exclamation points found by QI appeared in “The Sioux City Journal” of Iowa in October 1979. Sports journalist Terry Hersom wrote the following. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

After all, writers are entrusted with three exclamation points to last a lifetime, so as not to squander them. When one has wasted the ultimate symbol, he leaves nothing for the future.

The notion of controlling the use of exclamation points can be expressed in many ways; hence, it is difficult to trace. Here is an evolutionary overview with dates and attributions:

1919: It should be written with great rapidity, containing not less than ten exclamation points per page (Satirical remark by Christopher Morley)

1930: The Times’ typographical rules for news-stories forbade the use of the exclamation point (Claim about “The New York Times” made in “The New Yorker”)

1958: Cut out all these exclamation points. An exclamation point is like laughing at your own joke (Attributed to F. Scott Fitzgerald by Sheilah Graham)

1979 Jan: The quote … always appears with more exclamation points than a prudent writer is likely to use in a lifetime (Helen Dudar)

1979 Oct: Writers are entrusted with three exclamation points to last a lifetime (Terry Hersom)

1979 Nov: Don’t overuse exclamation marks!!! (William Safire)

1990: Unless you are quoting other people’s exclamations, kill all exclamation points!!! (William Safire)

1997: A writer gets two exclamation points in a lifetime (Attributed to William Maxwell by Jane Schwartz)

1999: A writer gets two exclamation points in a lifetime (Attributed to William Maxwell by Edward Hirsch)

2001: Keep your exclamation points under control. You are allowed no more than two or three per 100,000 words of prose (Elmore Leonard)

2004: Every writer has a lifetime ration of three exclamation points (Annabel Davis-Goff states that William Maxwell made this statement directly to her)

2008: Each of us is allowed only three exclamation points in a lifetime (Attributed to Allen Smith by colleagues Candy Schwartz and Peter Hernon)

2019: Some writers recommend that you should use no more than a dozen exclamation points per book; others insist that you should use no more than a dozen exclamation points in a lifetime (Benjamin Dreyer)

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Quote Origin: God’s Only Excuse Is That He Does Not Exist

Stendhal? Marie-Henri Beyle? Friedrich Nietzsche? Albert Camus? Prosper Mérimée? Apocryphal?

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Question for Quote Investigator: An atheist who was angry about the state of the world crafted the following comically paradoxical saying:

The only excuse for God is that he does not exist.

This remark has been attributed to the French Romantic novelist Marie-Henri Beyle (known by his pen name Stendhal). The statement has also been credited to the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche and the French philosopher Albert Camus. Would you please explore this topic?

Reply from Quote Investigator: Marie-Henri Beyle died in 1842. In 1850 the French writer and archaeologist Prosper Mérimée published a short work about his friend. The title of the work, “H. B.”, was based on the initials of Henri Beyle. Mérimée presented the following tale about Beyle. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

Il n’avait aucune idée religieuse, ou s’il en avait, il apportait un sentiment de colère et de rancune contre la Providence. « Ce qui excuse Dieu, disait-il, c’est qu’il n’existe pas. »

Here is one possible rendering into English:

He never had any sense of religion, or if he did, he harbored a sense of anger and resentment toward Providence. “God’s only excuse,” he’d say, “is that He doesn’t exist.”

Friedrich Nietzsche mentioned this saying in his book “Ecce Homo”, but Nietzsche credited the remark to Stendhal.

Albert Camus mentioned the saying in his book “L’Homme Révolté” (“The Rebel”), but Camus commented that Nietzsche attributed the statement to Stendhal.

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Joke Origin: “Do You Serve Lobsters Here?” “Yes, We Serve Anyone”

Life Magazine? Milton College? Joan Kochanowski? Norman Brinkmeier? Anonymous?

**Illustration of Lobster (Homarus Americanus) from N.Y. Public Library**

Question for Quote Investigator: There is a family of wordplay jokes in which a customer asks a waiter about the availability of seafood. Here are three examples:

“Waiter, do you serve shrimps here?” “Sure. We don’t care how tall you are. Sit down.”

“Do you serve crabs?” “Yes, we treat all customers alike.”

“Do you serve lobsters here? ” “Oh, yes sir, we serve anyone. Sit right down.”

In each of these jokes, the seafood term is not interpreted as a menu item; instead, the term is applied to the customer. Would you please trace the history of this family of jokes?

Reply from Quote Investigator: The earliest match located by QI appeared in “The Scioto Gazette” of Chillicothe, Ohio in March 1901. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

“Do you serve lobsters here?” asked the new arrival.

“Well,” replied the waiter, “we ’as our instructions to discriminate as much as possible among them as comes in to eat.”

This joke can be understood as an absurdist misunderstanding. Further, circa 1901 there were several different slang interpretations for “lobster”. Here are five senses listed in “Green’s Dictionary of Slang”:²

1. (a) a soldier, a marine (who also wears scarlet).

1. (b) (also blue lobster) a policeman.

2. (a) (US) a slow-witted, awkward, or gullible person; a general term of abuse; esp. of a socially inept or foolish person.

2. (b) an older man who gives a younger woman presents and/or money in return for sexual favours.

3 (US) in the context of obtaining money, one who is a waste of effort.

The joke above appeared in several newspapers in 1901 including “The Omaha Daily News” in Nebraska,³ “The Washington Reporter” in Pennsylvania,⁴ and “The Wilsonton Journal” in Kansas.⁵

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Proverb Origin: It Is Better to Die on Our Feet Than to Live on Our Knees

Emiliano Zapata? Dolores Ibarruri? Franklin D. Roosevelt? Ernest Hemingway? Aeschylus? François-Noël Babeuf? Joseph Heller? Luciano J. Rivas? Rafael Tellez Giron? Anonymous?

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Question for Quote Investigator: A popular saying extolls courage and condemns subservience even when conditions are challenging:

It’s better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

This motto has been attributed to Mexican revolutionary leader Emiliano Zapata, Spanish politician Dolores Ibárruri, French revolutionary leader François-Noël Babeuf, ancient Greek tragedian Aeschylus, U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, U.S. literary figure Ernest Hemingway, U.S. novelist Joseph Heller, and others. This situation is confusing. Would you please explore this topic?

Reply from Quote Investigator: The earliest match found by QI appeared in the Mexican periodical “El Mundo Ilustrado” (“The Illustrated World”) in September 1906 within an article about Mexican leader Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla written by Luciano J. Rivas. Here is a Spanish excerpt followed by an English translation. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

Mexicanos imitémoslo, recordando que “vale más morir de pie que vivir de rodillas.”

Mexicans, let us emulate him, remembering that “it is better to die standing than to live on one’s knees.”

The saying above was enclosed within quotation marks which signaled that the statement was already an existing proverb.

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Quote Origin: If We Knew What We Were Doing, It Would Not Be Called Research

Albert Einstein? Charles F. Kettering? Wernher von Braun? Luis de Florez? Charles Erwin Wilson? David C. Hazen?

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Question for Quote Investigator: There are no guaranteed outcomes when research is conducted. The results might be valuable or worthless. The following saying reflects this uncertainty. Here are two versions:

(1) If we knew what it was we were doing, it wouldn’t be called research, would it?

(2) If we knew what it was we would learn, it just wouldn’t be research, would it?

This saying has been attributed to the famous physicist Albert Einstein, but I am skeptical because there are so many fake Einstein quotations. Would you please explore this topic?

Reply from Quote Investigator: QI has found no substantive evidence that Albert Einstein wrote or spoke this statement. It is not listed in the comprehensive reference “The Ultimate Quotable Einstein” from Princeton University Press.¹

This notion can be expressed in many ways; hence, it is difficult to trace. Here is an evolutionary overview with dates and attributions:

1923: Research wouldn’t be research if we didn’t try everything but the right thing. The only time it’s disgraceful to fail on a research is the last time. (Charles F. Kettering, President of the General Motors Research Corporation)

1946: If I knew in advance what the results will be, the work wouldn’t be research. (Luis de Florez, Rear Admiral in the United States Navy)

1954: If you knew for sure you were going to get the answer you wanted to get it would not be research. You would have passed that stage. It would be in the engineering application stage. (Charles Erwin Wilson, U.S. Secretary of Defense)

1958: If everything you started was bound to be successful, it wouldn’t be research and it wouldn’t be development. It would be just straight engineering. (Charles Erwin Wilson, Former U.S. Secretary of Defense)

1959: We don’t know really for sure what is going to come out of these programs—they wouldn’t be research programs, of course if we knew ahead of time what we were going to do. (Harold W. Ritchey, Vice President, Rocket Divisions, Thiokol Chemical Corp.)

1965: If research and development didn’t have its failures as well as its successes, it wouldn’t be called research and development. (Remark in anonymous editorial in “Army” magazine)

1967: If we knew what it was we would learn, it just wouldn’t be research, would it? (Attributed to David C. Hazen, Professor of Aerospace Engineering at Princeton University)

1986: If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn’t be called research. (Anonymous epigraph in PhD thesis by John Stewart Denker)

1989: If we knew how it worked, it wouldn’t be called research. (No attribution given in a message posted to Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.mac)

1991: If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn’t be called research. (Attributed to Argonne ATLAS in a message posted to Usenet newsgroup comp.os.vms)

1992: If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn’t be called research. (Attributed to Wernher von Braun in a message posted to Usenet newsgroup rec.music.makers)

1994: If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? (Attributed to Albert Einstein in a message posted to Usenet newsgroup alt.usage.english)

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