Quote Investigator® – Tracing Quotations

Quote Origin: The Good News Is, We’ve Discovered the Secret of Immortality. The Bad News Is, It’s Not for Us

Geoffrey Hinton? Will Douglas Heaven? Alex Hern? Apocryphal?

Question for Quote Investigator: A modern AI system is implemented with an intricate hardware device, but the crucial distinguishing characteristic of the device is a collection of parameters called weights. It is possible to store a copy of these weights in a separate location.

If the hardware device is damaged or destroyed, then a new comparable device can be constructed. The previously stored weights can be placed into the new device, and the original AI system can be resurrected. A prominent AI researcher once said the following when comparing the longevity of humans to the longevity of these digital neural network systems:

So, the good news is, we’ve discovered the secret of immortality. The bad news is, it’s not for us.

This statement has been attributed to Turing Award winner Geoffrey Hinton. Would you please help me to find a citation?

Reply from Quote Investigator: In May 2023 Geoffrey Hinton appeared at the EmTech conference, and he was interviewed by journalist Will Douglas Heaven. A transcript was published in the trade publication Computerworld. Hinton spoke about the future of humanity and immortality:¹

“I think it’s quite conceivable that humanity is just a passing phase in the evolution of intelligence. You couldn’t directly evolve digital intelligence. It would require too much energy and too much careful fabrication. You need biological intelligence to evolve so that it can create digital intelligence, but digital intelligence can then absorb everything people ever wrote in a fairly slow way, which is what ChatGPT is doing, but then it can get direct access experience from the world and run much faster. It may keep us around for a while to keep the power stations running, but after that, maybe not.

“So the good news is we figured out how to build beings that are immortal. When a piece of hardware dies, they don’t die. If you’ve got the weights stored in some medium and you can find another piece of hardware that can run the same instructions, then you can bring it to life again.

“So, we’ve got immortality but it’s not for us.”

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Quote Origin: I’m Sick and Tired of These Old Cliches. Let’s Have Some New Cliches

Samuel Goldwyn? Louella Parsons? Sylvia Porter? Leonard Hall? Apocryphal?

**Clichés illustrated by cartoonist J. Priestman Atkinson of Punch**

Question for Quote Investigator: A famous producer from the Golden Age of Hollywood once complained to his scriptwriters that their stories were uninspired. The producer made an inadvertently comical request:

Let’s have some new cliches.

This saying has been attributed to Samuel Goldwyn, but I am skeptical. Would you please explore this topic?

Reply from Quote Investigator: The earliest ascription to Samuel Goldwyn found by QI appeared in an article by prominent gossip columnist Louella Parsons published in the September 1948 issue of “Cosmopolitan” magazine. Parsons used the initials S. G. when referring to Goldwyn. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

I wouldn’t, naturally, want to mention any names. But one of Hollywood’s most alert producers, whose initials are S. G. and who, a little more than a year ago, got an Oscar for a particularly fine picture, has lately been belaboring his writers “to come up with some new cliches.”

The notion of “new cliches” began to appear many years earlier, but usually the intention was not humorous. For example, in 1913 the book “Harry the Cockney” by Edwin Pugh discussed the influence of working-class Londoners:²

Every day he is enriching the English tongue with new forms of speech, new cliches, new slang, new catchwords.

In 1921 “The State” newspaper of South Carolina printed the following:³

The American position in regard to Hungarian affairs is said to be one of “interested observation.” This deserves to rank alongside “view with alarm,” and “point with pride.” Some brand-new cliches, to use a paradox, are getting themselves made every day.

In 1927, theater critic Harold E. Clurman wrote about the emergence of “new cliches” in plays, but this usage was also not intended to be humorous:⁴

So today many “unconventional” plays dealing with various types of Americans: the puritan, the repressed, the straitlaced, and hard-headed, the emancipated and the simple, are more or less conventional hokum cut after the latest pattern—the new cliches. So too, for example, the majority of plays, however intelligently maneuvered, dramatizing a “sex problem” on a psychoanalytic basis or plays about plain people with very plain speech.

The notion of deliberately creating and employing “new cliches” was discussed by journalist Leonard Hall in 1936:⁵

… we are busily trying to age some new cliches to fit these matters.

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Quote Origin: Nothing Needs To Be Exposed Since It Is Already Barefaced

Toni Morrison? Karl Shapiro? Anonymous?

Question for Quote Investigator: A prominent literary figure once said:

Nothing needs to be exposed since it is already barefaced.

I am having trouble finding a solid citation. Would you please help me to trace this expression?

Reply from Quote Investigator: U.S. author Toni Morrison won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1993. Morrison’s Nobel lecture included a statement she attributed to an unnamed poet. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

We have heard all our short lives that we have to be responsible. What could that possibly mean in the catastrophe this world has become; where, as a poet said, “nothing needs to be exposed since it is already barefaced.” Our inheritance is an affront. You want us to have your old, blank eyes and see only cruelty and mediocrity.

QI and other researchers have not yet been able to identify the unnamed poet.

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Quote Origin: Genius Is Hard Work, Stick-To-It-Iveness, and Common Sense

Thomas Edison? Julia Marlowe? Samuel Smiles? Anonymous?

**Portrait of Thomas Edison by Abraham Archibald Anderson from 1890**

Question for Quote Investigator: A famous entrepreneur once spoke about the ingredients needed for success. Here are two versions:

(1) I tell you genius is hard work, stick-to-it-iveness, and common sense.

(2) The three great essentials to achieve anything worthwhile are, first, hard work; second, stick-to-itiveness; third, common sense.

These statements have been attributed to inventor and businessman Thomas Edison, but I have not seen solid citations. Would you please help?

Reply from Quote Investigator: In 1910 Frank Lewis Dyer and ‎Thomas Commerford Martin published the two-volume authorized biography “Edison: His Life and Inventions” which included the following remarks about genius. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

The idea of attributing great successes to “genius” has always been repudiated by Edison, as evidenced by his historic remark that “Genius is 1 per cent. inspiration and 99 per cent. perspiration.” Again, in a conversation many years ago at the laboratory between Edison, Batchelor, and E. H. Johnson, the latter made allusion to Edison’s genius as evidenced by some of his achievements, when Edison replied:

“Stuff! I tell you genius is hard work, stick-to-it-iveness, and common sense.”

“Yes,” said Johnson, “I admit there is all that to it, but there’s still more. Batch and I have those qualifications, but although we knew quite a lot about telephones, and worked hard, we couldn’t invent a brand-new non-infringing telephone receiver as you did when Gouraud cabled for one.”

The biography author Dyer was the general counsel of the Edison Laboratory, and Martin was the former president of the American Institute of Electrical Engineers. Both authors were friends of Edison, and Edison participated in the creation of the book as discussed within an article printed in “The New York Times” in 1910:²

Not only has he read every word of it, testing the statements in it by original documents and a memory of stupendous retentiveness, but he has furnished to it several hundred pages of autobiography, nearly all of which is quoted in his own nervous and forceful language.

The crucial conversation containing the quotation was between Edison, Batchelor, and Johnson. QI does not know who described the conversation to the authors of the biography. In any case, Edison reviewed the text, and he endorsed the quotation; hence, QI believes that the quotation should be ascribed to Edison.

The variant statement containing the phrase “three great essentials” was attributed to Edison in 1917. The citation appears further below.

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Quote Origin: A Cat Has Absolute Emotional Honesty. People Hide Their Feelings, But Cats Never Do

Ernest Hemingway? Leicester Hemingway? Elizabeth Hamilton? Lois L. Vine? Apocryphal?

**Picture of cats in a basket from Unsplash**

Question for Quote Investigator: The following statement appeared as a crossword puzzle clue in “The New York Times”:

Human beings, for one reason or another, may hide their feelings, but a ___ does not.

This statement was attributed to Ernest Hemingway, and the missing word was “cat”. But I am skeptical that Hemingway ever wrote or said this. Would you please explore this topic?

Reply from Quote Investigator: In 1961 Leicester Hemingway published “My Brother, Ernest Hemingway”. Ernest used the nickname “Baron” when referring to his brother Leicester. The remark about cats was ascribed to Ernest Hemingway by Leicester Hemingway. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

Much has been written about Ernest’s enormous fondness for cats. He claimed they were superior to people of unknown quality. “A cat has absolute emotional honesty, Baron,” he told me once. “Male or female, a cat will show you how it feels about you. People hide their feelings for various reasons, but cats never do.”

The accuracy of the quotation is dependent on the veracity of Leicester Hemingway. Ernest Hemingway died in 1961, the same year Leicester published the book about Ernest.

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Anecdote Origin: I Hope Your Honor Will Have Mercy on a Poor Orphan

Artemus Ward? Charles Farrar Browne? Leo Rosten? Punch Magazine? Malakoff? Anonymous?

**Illustration of a wooden gavel and sounding block from Unsplash**

Question for Quote Investigator: A grotesque comical tale illustrates the notion of chutzpah. A young person was found guilty of murdering his father and mother. The judge asked, “Have you anything to say before I pass sentence?” The defendant replied, “I hope your Honor will show some consideration for the feelings of a poor orphan.”

The precise phrasing of the question and reply vary. This tale has been credited to the nineteenth-century U.S. humorist Artemus Ward, but I have not seen strong evidence, and I am skeptical. Would you please help me to find a citation?

Reply from Quote Investigator: The earliest match known to QI appeared in April 1856 within the “New-York Daily Times”. The anecdote appeared in a section called “Paris Gossip”. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

French Sang Froid
A Frenchman was tried the other day in one of the Departments, for having killed his father and mother. The crime was committed under the most revolting circumstances; and at the end of the pleadings, when he was about to be condemned to death, the President of the Tribunal asked the usual question, if he had any thing to say in his defence?
“Mon Dieu, non, Monsieur le President,” he replied, “Only I hope you have pity on a poor orphan!”
MALAKOFF.

The setting was France, and the defendant and judge were anonymous. The correspondent who shared the tale was only identified with the single name “Malakoff”.

Another version of this tale with an Arkansas setting was presented by Artemus Ward in 1858, but the story was already in circulation. See the citations further below. Artemus Ward was the pseudonym of Charles Farrar Browne.

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Quote Origin: The Young Man Knows the Rules, But the Old Man Knows the Exceptions

Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.? Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.? Clinton Cushing? Anonymous?

Question for Quote Investigator: Young people emerging from rigorous training are familiar with the rules of their professions, but it takes time and practical experience to recognize and adapt to the exceptions to these rules. A sage once said the following:

The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

This remark has been credited to the influential U.S. physician Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr. and the prominent U.S. Supreme Court justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. Would you please help me to find a citation to resolve this ambiguity?

Reply from Quote Investigator: In March 1871 Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr. delivered the valedictory address to the graduating class of the Bellevue Hospital Medical College in New York. The text of his speech was printed in “The New York Medical Journal” in April 1871. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions. The young man knows his patient, but the old man knows also his patient’s family, dead and alive, up and down for generations.

Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr. deserves credit for the expression under examination. During subsequent years the attribution specified was often ambiguous. In 1981 the statement was incorrectly credited to the famous jurist Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

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Proverb Origin: If You Don’t Know Where You Are Going, Any Road Will Take You There

Lewis Carroll? Cheshire Cat? Caterpillar? Harry S. Albert? R. Elizabeth Jones? Manmatha Nath Chatterjee? Henry Miller? Theodore Levitt? Anonymous?

**Illustration of the Cheshire Cat by John Tenniel**

Question for Quote Investigator: Choosing goals in life is difficult but essential. The following absurdist proverb is pertinent:

If you don’t know where you’re going, any road will take you there.

This statement has been credited to the famous English author Lewis Carroll, but I do not think this precise phrase appears in any of his works. Would you please explore this topic?

Reply from Quote Investigator: In 1865 Lewis Carroll published “Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland” which contained a scene with Alice and the Cheshire cat. Boldface added to excerpts by QI:¹

“Cheshire Puss,” she began, rather timidly, as she did not at all know whether it would like the name: however, it only grinned a little wider. “Come, it’s pleased so far,” thought Alice, and she went on, “Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?”
“That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,” said the Cat.
“I don’t much care where—” said Alice.
“Then it doesn’t matter which way you walk,” said the Cat.
“—so long as I get somewhere,” Alice added as an explanation.
“Oh, you’re sure to do that,” said the Cat, “if you only walk long enough.”

QI believes that the proverb evolved from this scene in Lewis Carroll’s book. Here is an overview with dates showing a sampling of the variety of expressions and attributions:

1865: “That depends a good deal on where you want to get to” “I don’t much care where — ” “Then it doesn’t matter which way you walk” (Lewis Carroll)

1900 Jul: “That depends a good deal where you want to get to” “I don’t much care — ” “Then it doesn’t matter which way you go” (Attributed to Lewis Carroll)

1910 Dec: If you don’t care where you are going, it can not matter much which way you go (Attributed to a Caterpillar character)

1913 Dec: It doesn’t matter which way you go, if you don’t much care where you are going to (Attributed to the Cheshire cat of Lewis Carroll)

1941 Oct: When a man does not know where he is going, any road will take him to his destination (Harry S. Albert)

1941 Dec: When a man does not know where he is going, any road will take him to his destination (Attributed to Algo Henderson)

1942 Apr: If one does not know where he is going, any road will take him there (Manmatha Nath Chatterjee)

1942 Jun: If you don’t know where you are headed, any road will lead to your destination (Attributed to Anonymous)

1944 Oct: If you do not know where you are going, any road will get you there (Labeled an Oriental Proverb by R. Elizabeth Jones)

1945 Jun: If you do not know where you are going any road will take you there (Labeled an Ancient Saying by Manmatha Nath Chatterjee)

1958 Apr: If you don’t know where you are going, any road will take you there (Attributed to the Talmud by Daniel Bell)

1960 Jul: Unless he knows where he is going, any road will take him there (Theodore Levitt)

1969: If you don’t know where you’re going, any road will do (Attributed to Anonymous by John Argenti)

1977: Unless you know where you are going, any road will take you there (Attributed to Theodore Levitt)

1980: If you don’t know where you are going, every road will get you there (Attributed to Chips Bohlen by Henry Kissinger)

1990: If you don’t know where you are going, any road will take you there (Attributed to the Talmud by Martin Gardner)

2002: If you don’t know where you’re going, any road will take you there (George Harrison)

A separate Quote Investigator article about an inverted saying is also available. The following title is a clickable link: Proverb Origin: If You’re Not Sure Where You’re Going, You’re Liable to End Up Someplace Else

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Quote Origin: If Your Idea Is Original, You Will Have to Ram It Down People’s Throats

Howard H. Aiken? Kenneth E. Iverson? Gregory W. Welch? Robert Slater? Apocryphal?

**Picture representing creativity from Unsplash**

Question for Quote Investigator: A cynical comment about innovation states that it is not necessary to fear the theft of your ideas because people obstinately resist imaginative ideas. If your idea is original, you will have to ram it down people’s throats. This notion has been attributed to Howard H. Aiken who was the main designer of IBM’s Harvard Mark I, the first programmable computer in the U.S. Would you please help me to find a citation?

Reply from Quote Investigator: The Spring 1985 issue of “The Computer Museum Report” of Boston, Massachusetts contained an article titled “Howard Hathaway Aiken: The Life of a Computer Pioneer” by Gregory W. Welch which included a version of the quotation:¹

… a comment that Aiken made to a student once betrays the attitude which earned him the enmity of some, and caused him to become disillusioned in later years: “Don’t worry about people stealing your idea,” he said. “If it’s original you will have to ram it down their throats.” This attitude represented what his critics claimed was Aiken’s condescending and superior air.

The footnote accompanying the quotation named “Iverson” as the source. This corresponded to computer scientist Kenneth E. Iverson who was Aiken’s student. The notes of the article listed the following document by Iverson which QI has not examined:

Kenneth E. Iverson, “Howard Aiken, Friend and Mentor,” April, 1973, Aiken Files, Folder: “Harry Mimno,” AOF.

The initialism AOF referred to the following archive:

AOF—Active files of Dr. Anthony Oettinger, Chairman, Program on Information Resources Policy, Harvard University, Aiken Computation Laboratories, 33 Oxford Street, Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Aiken died in March 1973. Hence, the document above was created by Iverson in the month after Aiken’s death. QI believes that the quotation is probably in this 1973 document. Alternatively, Gregory W. Welch heard the quotation directly from Iverson who credited Aiken.

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Proverb Origin: If You’re Not Sure Where You’re Going, You’re Liable to End Up Someplace Else

Yogi Berra? Abigail Van Buren? Joe Garagiola? Laurence J. Peter? Robert F. Mager? Anonymous?

**Picture of a map with a compass from Unsplash**

Question for Quote Investigator: Selecting goals and targets is helpful. A collection of humorous sayings highlights the disadvantages of aimlessness. Here are three examples:

(1) If you don’t know where you are going you will never arrive.

(2) If you don’t know where you’re going, you’re going to wind up someplace else.

(3) You’ve got to be careful if you don’t know where you’re going because you might not get there.

Instances from this family have been credited to baseball player Yogi Berra, Canadian educator Laurence J. Peter, psychologist Robert F. Mager, and advice columnist Abigail Van Buren. Would you please explore this topic?

Reply from Quote Investigator: Here is an overview with dates showing the variety of expressions and attributions in this family:

65 AD Precursor: When a man does not know what harbour he is making for, no wind is the right wind (Seneca the Younger)

1907 Nov 25: If you don’t know where you are going you will never arrive (Attributed to Anonymous)

1962: If you’re not sure where you’re going, you’re liable to end up someplace else—and not even know it (Robert F. Mager)

1969: If you don’t know where you are going, you will probably end up somewhere else. (Laurence J. Peter and Raymond Hull)

1969 Jun 06: If you don’t know where you’re going, you’re going to wind up someplace else (Attributed to Yogi Berra)

1969 Jul 22: If you don’t know where you’re going, you’re gonna wind up somewhere else (Attributed to Yogi Berra)

1969 Aug 09: People who don’t know where they’re going usually wind up somewhere else (Abigail Van Buren)

1972 Jan 31: If you don’t know where you’re going, you might wind up some place else (Attributed to Yogi Berra)

1979 Nov: If you don’t know where you’re going, you won’t know when you get there (Attributed to Yogi Berra)

1980 Nov 14: If you don’t know where you’re going, how will you know when you get there? (Attributed to Yogi Berra)

1982 Aug 17: You’ve got to be very careful if you don’t know where you’re going, because you might not get there (Attributed to Yogi Berra)

1983 Dec 29: You’ve got to be careful because if you don’t know where you’re going, you might never get there (Attributed to Yogi Berra)

1998: You’ve got to be careful if you don’t know where you’re going ’cause you might not get there! (Yogi Berra)

A separate Quote Investigator article about an inverted saying is also available. The following title is a clickable link: Proverb Origin: If You Don’t Know Where You Are Going, Any Road Will Take You There

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